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23rd January 2005
Does anyone know this type of boat built from Summers & Payne? I found
this boat in an old box in Sorrento. Does anyone have some information about this type of sailing
boat?
Best regards
Vincenzo Amoroso
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23rd January 2005
My Father bought “Katie” in 1947 from Frank Shuttleworth at Paglesham in Essex
She was/is a converted Maldon smack. He sold her in 1957.
I wondered if she is still around?
Martyn Langford
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We are in search of main sail for valkyrie II (ck47) We are based in spain, Our last contact
was Adrian Wright of kent ......can anyone help? we are desperate very much apreciated. Dave
Johnston
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I am trying to trace some copys of a book. 'The Restauration of Valkyrie II' by Sarah and Dave Johnston.
Published by Batsfords in about 1984.
Dave Johnston
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The keel up restoration is under way on Hobo, a '69 U.K. C-Type Potter. This boat was shipped to
the states when new and lives in New England until I bought it and trailered it to California.
It will not be converted to a lateen rig or any other than the original Gunter rig with a possible
modification and an addition. A wooden tabernacle will be added. The current Gunter rig has
a metal track on the mast and a guide on the spar. I'm thinking of removing the track putting
jaws on the spar. I think the jaws will allow faster rigging. The boom and spar, with the sail
attached will be one unit to attach to the mast. The current track and slide will require the
spar to be separated from the boom. Bob Lomas uses jaws and rigged his A Type in a wink. Few American
sailors have experience with Gunter (or Gunther ?) rigs, so I' hope you good people can give me
some good direction. Any suggestions? Thanks Bill Payne
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Hi my name is Gary Walls and I am a part owner in Madeline a 30ft Gaffer I've looked everywhere trying
to find information about Madeline we think that she is a west coast nobbey possibly a prawner we found
her in a boatyard on the Deben in a sorry state but she is now sailing again she is carvel ( pine on
oak frames ) and was previously owned by somebody called John Hugget we believe but we cannot contact
him I have sent some photos of her as we got her ( she looks different now ) I would be grateful for
any information or if you would kindly pass this on to somebody that might be able to help. yours
hopefully Gary Walls
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USE OF A BARGEBOAT WANTED FOR A GOOD CAUSE Tony Ellis is not an OGA member, but is Chairman
of Trustees for the Cambria Trust, raising funds to restore SB Cambria back to usable condition. he is
also editor of Thames Guardian: the journal of The River Thames Society. He is planning a marathon
scull in a bargeboat, sculling over the stern, to raise funds for Cambria in the Autumn. I am
posting this to see If any member can help by lending or knows the whereabouts of either a wooden or
grp replica bargeboat that Tony could use for his fund raising marathon in September/October. Thanks
for your help Regards
email Robin Ford (OGA member 2302)
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Hi Im interested to find other Skanner 19 owner Reg Wright
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Restoring a gaffer also means restoring her toilet, in this case a Blake Baby. I am in search of
a good original lid with hinges since it is missing on my boat. New ones can be bought but I rather
buy a new boat for the price of that. So if anyone of you happens to have one around to spare (who
doesn’t) and wants to sell it for a good cause and a nice price is invited to reply.
Hope
to hear from you, Frank Zomerdijk Ondina The Netherlands
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I have just started restoring ALAN, which I believe is a very early Bembridge Redwing, circa 1900. She
was registered with OGA in the 70's number 147. She is Gunter rigged. I would like to do the restoration
as near as possible to the original plans, does anyone have any idea where I might find out more about
these early Redwings. Please contact Peter Rowe
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15th May 05
After reading the latest Classic Boat Mag ,I felt I should contact you and let
you know a bit about my vessel "OYSTER" that featured in the June 1998 Classic Boat mag. I bought
her in the year 1999. With two friend sailed her from Nelson to Lyttelton a distance of 271nm from
the top of the South Island to mid way down the east side ,in 67hours non stop. "OYSTER"is now a charter
boat in survey to carry six passengers on a hands on sailing experience. The name of my company is Jack
Tar Sailing Co in Lyttelton just 15min from Christchurch in New Zealand. Since 1999 we have carried
over 600 people in safety ,as you know how Gaff Boats handle.,and are sea kindly even in a blow.
"OYSTER" was built by Charles Bailey Jr in 1903 is 31ft6in with 4ft bowsprit 24ft waterline 9ft beam
and draws 4ft6in with 25cwt of lead on the keel she sets 500sq ft of sail,in fly ,jib, staysail, main,
topsail, mizzen,and mizzen topsail,and a mizzen jib on a long reach. I belong to the Classic Yacht
Ass of New Zealand.For more info look at our web page. Thanks Michael Rossouw ,Owner / Skipper. www.jacktarsailing.co.nz
mike@jacktarsailing.co.nz
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I am at present restoring /repairing my ancient 16.5' clinker day boat, that is at least 50 years old
and I am changing the rig to a gaff sail. All the figures work out for C of E etc, I intend to build
a 4" hollow wooden mast. But I am not sure what size to make the spar and boom. The sail size is ,foot
10.5', and the head is also 10.5' with a leach of 15', and luff of 7.5' approx. Any help would be
appreciated. Yours Nick Murphy. Deepest Oxfordshire.
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I am interested to hear from anyone who owns a Skanner 19. My boat is"Annie" Built by Mike Howes in
1986. Sail No 21. She is moored in the Menai Straits.
Reg Wright.
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Hello again to all at the Gaffers Forum.
In my research into my Six Metre (The 1911 A.E. Payne
"Houri"), I've been led, some might say by the nose, to trying to establish the fate / whereabouts of
his other International Rule designs.
The complete list runs thus:
(All yachts are 1907
- 1911)
Six Metres: Hayo, Dorathea (both registered to Pula, on the Istrian Peninsula) - Fate
unknown Fury 1910 - Scrapped 1992 Southampton Snowdrop 1910 -
Fate unknown Houri 1911 - in early stages of restoration
Eight Metres: Ythene
1907 - Fate unknown Zelva (Originally to be called Julnar - name changed before
completion) 1907 - Ashore in dry storage at the Maritime and Industrial Museum, Swansea.
Five
Metre:
Emu 1907 - Commissioned by Mrs. J. Ismay of Bembridge IOW, for her son, the younger brother
of J. Bruce Ismay (Chairman of White Star Line) in 1907. She stayed with him until 1919, when she disappeard
from Lloyds Register. She surfaces in an article about Sunbeams on the Itchenor S.C. website: Owned
by John Breakwell, an architect who lived on Jersey until his death circa 1961, when she passed to his
brother Frank and put apparently put up for sale. Any information on the fate of this yacht or any
of the others listed above would be greatly appreciated.
Another stab in the dark, leading to
yet more staws to clutch at !
Best Regards
Dave Seer
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You might care to pass on this image to the owner, sorry I couldn’t read the name on his transom. I
have a couple more images if they are wanted.
Roger Gaspar
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I am looking for a masthead light that is appropriate for my old gaff cutter. It has got to look
the part, work well and be available. Diameter of mast at truck 4 inches + / -. On one hand I imagine
it should be brass or bronze with a Fresnel lens. On the other hand I am thinking that as long as it
is somewhat unobtrusive, I should steer myself towards a light that is extremely bright and does the
best job. In either case, I am hoping that someone will have a suggestion for a light that I can
find a website for. Any suggestions?
Steve Mack
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Do you or any of your members have any info on a boat named 'Quinque'. I think that she was an Orford
Whitewing class?? My Father and Uncle owned her in the 1950's, and she was moored at Slaughden Quay
in the Alde. I have some photos of her sailing in the 50's. I would be interested to know if she
is still around. Last time I saw her was at Aldeburgh in the early 80's, and she was a bit of a wreck.
Tim Smart
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Some weeks ago I falled in love with and old boat CYGNET II SO MUCH IN LOVE THAT I BOUGHTHER
LAST WEEK
SHE WAS BUILT BY jOHNSON AND jAGO (LEIGH-ON-SEA) and launched on may 1938. SHE WAS
THE SINGLE EVOLUTION FOR THE SHORT LYNETTE CLASS I BELIEVE
I FOUND A PICTURE OF HER DURING THE
EAST COST RACE 1998
As i found tha oga signal ( but perhaps 1894= I try to know all informations
about her ( history previous owners, pictures, original designs........ ) or useful links on internet
as you probably remarked english is not my mother tongue (i am french )
I would be very grateful
for any help
her british registry is SSR 118236
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP Alain Brillet
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I am writing in my role as keeper of the Old Gaffers Association Boat Register. One of our Association,
the owner of the Norah Creina, a yacht built by Clark and Carter of West Mersea in 1935 has asked for
help in identifying the original Norah Creina. They have found reference to an earlier boat with the
same name, and ask does any one know who the original Norah was, or can any one suggest a line of enquiry
to help identify this lady was and why boat owners should wish to name boats for her?
Best wishes
Nick Miller
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Since I posted the enquiry I did a search of the web to find that "Nora Creina" seems to be an old Irish
folk song or air. Can you please add a supplimentary enquiry? Can you add:- "We have found that
Nora Creina sufficiently well known to have been reffered to by both Conan Doyle and R L Stephenson each
as different ocean going ships, and was a part of Irish culture that was exported to New York as a popular
song. There were several references on the web to Irish melodies, songs and airs named Nora Creina.
Perhaps the musical amongst us can help?
Nick Miller
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28th May 02
I am the proud owner of a 1924, 32' gaff rigged, Broads racing cruiser. (http://members.aol.com/breeze177rcc).
She is a rather unique in the use of a relatively high aspect ratio rig, not usually favoured on
the Broads because of the requirement for a tall mast to support it, which makes bridges difficult.
Until Sunday, she had a very tall, very heavy wooden mast, which is now in the boatyard in three
pieces and will probably be written off. I am seriously considering replacing with an aluminium spar,
suitably disguised, to take away some of the hard work lowering and raising and, of course, improve her
performance.
The reason for contacting you was to ask if any of your members have experience
of assembling a round section, aluminium mast for a gaffer.
I would be most grateful if
you could forward my request to whoever you think may be able to offer advice.
Colin Chettleburgh.
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31st May 02
Any one got a picture and details of the Deben Cherub? I understand about
17 were built in the 1930's and that there are still quite a few around. Any info much appreciated
Send info to Lesley
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24th June We have a Winkle Brig that we are "doing up" for which we have full details of the Ferry
Boatyard at Fiddlers Ferry Yacht Haven (telephone number, contact name, etc). There is only an answer
machine on the telephone number on which we have left a few messages with no response. We have now been
advised that the Ferry Boatyard may have gone out of business or been bought out but we are hitting
a brick wall at every turn to get an answer. Would you have any idea or be able to suggest an alternative
source for information. Because of the work needed on the boat we need to source seating for the port
cockpit seat and may need other spares. jane & chris doughty doubledfairfield@hotmail.com
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New Crew for the Endeavour
The Endeavour is looking for new staff to replace those that will
be leaving after we arrive in the UK, Whitby. The shipwright has been with us for two years and the bosun
for six and they are moving on so we will be looking for new crew. All applicants are to have the
necessary AMSA, or equivalent, certifications and qualifications required for sailing on Class II commercial
vessels. They must be outgoing and have the ability to work with others in confined spaces and must be
able to supervise large groups of unskilled labour at ship maintenance. CVs should be sent to the master,
Chris Blake, at mailto:cblake2@attglobal.net. Anyone that may be suitable for a vessel such as Endeavour
please send me your CV and I will get back to you. Endeavour will be in the UK for a couple of years.
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Wanted volunteers for Kenya Jacaranda
Kenya Jacaranda is a gaff rigged Brixham trawler
operated by volunteers as a sail training project sailing out of Tilbury on the Thames. We are currently
desperately short of skippers and wondered if any OGA members are suitably qualified or would like to
become qualified. They need to have RYA yachtmaster plus sea survival and first aid certificates and
undertake a medical carried out by their G.P. Also we need experienced crew who would like to work
with youngsters and pass on their experience/expertise.
Please contact Ray Clark on 01268 756867
or mobile 07710512755.
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3rd August 02
I'm working on a 1911 Fred Shepherd 15m shoal draft yawl (Slowly!!). We
may be moving west, and I believe there is a specialist yard on the Sharpness Canal. I don't seem to
be able to find this can anyone help please?
David Brooke
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17th August 02
Being both a musician and a gaffer (sadly now disproportionately in that
order), the request for information on Norah Creina caught my eye. I have done a bit of research which
may be of interest to Nick Miller, or the owner of the eponymous gaffer. I won't post it here, as it's
off topic, and mind-numbingly boring for anyone whose boat isn't called Norah Creina, so anyone still
awake and interested can contact me at Greg@johnwyattltd.co.uk and I'll forward my findings.
Greg
Dunn
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Hi! I sailed a lateen rig Indian fishing boat a little way over 20 years ago and may be able to
help Eric Husher with his question on how to tack such a craft. Briefly you try to avoid that manoevre
since you end up with the sail on the windward side of the mast and literally in bad shape - and so you
gybe round every time unless you are "short-tacking".
Sam Coles sacolesuk@yahoo.co.uk &
http://homepages.rya-online.net/sacoles and look at Ramprasad I
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Dear Sir: Im writing to you searching for info. You may be able to help me. I have found an
old spidsgatter for sale but I don't find information about it. Can you send me information about
it? Its seems 10,22 meters long and is needed to be restored. But I don’t know model or builder.
All I know is “SPITZGATTER SEGELRISS 10,22mtrs”
Thanks in advance. Sorry for my English.
Im writing you from Spain. Juan Dominguez Fariña INC SISTEMAS. Tlfn:922256632 Fax:922253641
Inter Network Consulting S.L.
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HOURI
I have been pointed in your direction by the Special Collections Library of Southampton
City Council. I approached them looking for information relating to my 1911 International Six Meter yacht,
Houri. She was designed by A.E. Payne Jnr, and built on the East bank of the River Itchen, by
the firm of Alexander MacDonald & Co., at their yard on what used to be called Elm Road. I have
some work to do on her, however the hull is still basically sound after having been replanked. Most of
what needs to be done to her involves the rig, and deck, which leads me to the difficult part. She has
been shortened by 2"6' at the stern. In light of this I have spent a good deal of time trying
to trace descendants of Arthur Payne (Senior & Junior) in the hope of finding drawings of her. I have
been fortunate enough to have been in contact with one of the Payne family, but as yet no drawings have
surfaced... this is in addition to following all of the more usual channels. Do you have any
suggestions as to what may have happened to the records of A.E. Payne & Co Naval Architects Ltd., or
indeed those of Alexander MacDonald & Co. ? On the note of MacDonalds, I do know that the company
went through a series of takeovers, which are detailed as follows according to Kelly's Street Directories
: 1909-10 Macdonald, Alexander & Co, yacht builders, Ferry yard, Elm Road, Itchen 1910-11
" " " " " 1911-12 "
" " " " 1912-13 "
" " " 10 Elm Road, Itchen 1913-14
Beazley, Henry J, yacht builder, Ferry yard, 10 Elm Road 1914-15 Beazley & Kemp Ltd, yacht builders,
Ferry yard, 10 Elm Road 1918-19 " " "
" 1920 R Kemp Ltd, engineers & ship builders, Ferry yard, 10 Elm Road The firm
of R. Kemp & Co., still exists, however, they are either unable or unwilling (!) to help. I hope
that someone may be able to shed some light on this matter, as I'm running out of ideas !! If anyone
would like to contact me by phone, you can do so on : 029 2092 5076 days OR 01495 785496
eves after 18.00
Many thanks Dave Seer
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I am currently considering the purchase of an old gaffer - built probably about 1930 to 35 built by
a company in Wallasey called Henry B Hornby. The boat is Number 361. I am trying to find out some
history of the yard, or still better the boat itself - any idea where to start?
Any help welcome!
Nick Schiller
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19th April 03
Dear people , I own an original Falmouth Pilot cutter,built in the 30's, her
name is "AMPELISCA". I am having trouble finding a manual Simpson Lawrence windlass for her. I
am in the USA and am wondering if any old fishing boats are being taken apart that might have such equipment
still in working order available for purchase . Please contact George Zachorne at email :GWZachornejr@aol.com
Thank you in advance, George and Mike
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19th April Belgrade Serbia & Montenegro Dear Sirs, This is to apply to you hoping
that in accordance with your ability you will help me to settle a problem. Probably a dream of any
young shipbuilding engineer, especially one who is sea loving person, is to restore an old very beautiful
yacht . I am very lucky person to work in the company, "COFIS" domiciled in Belgrade, that has become
the owner of such a yacht named Podgorka. I have a pleasure to organise complete restoration of pretty
neglected vessel. Unfortunately during a hard time of recent past years all pertaining documentation
disappeared so I avail this opportunity to request you kindly to help me in finding a shipyard where
the yacht was built or the name of a designer. I have only the following data: Name: Podgorka
Material: wood Displacement: 18.5 t Dimensions: 19.20 x 4.15 x 1.3 m Draft: 2.75 m Building:
London 1931 Thanking you in advance. Best regards. Sasha Pavlica, B.Sc. N.A. Marine
Manager cofisc@eunet.yu Phone: (381-11) 32 81 883 Fax: (381-11) 63 94 71
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Fellow traditional boat enthusiasts, I am about to inherit a 16ft, loose luffed, gaff rigged, GRP,
open day boat from my father. He tells me that the boat was modelled on a traditional fishing boat, probably
used on rivers in the South East of England (UK) for shell fish gathering. The type of boat is apparently
called a 'Winkle Brig'. I have searched the net with no success to find information about the history
of this type of craft. If anyone can assist me with information, or point me in the right direction,
please email me > whinging_pom@hotmail.com
Thanking you in anticipation,
Simon Hill.
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G'Day Pete I just thought you may be interested in Hearing about the "F.V. Silvery Wave" She is the
last Western Australian Cray fishing boat built with a sail as her primary source of power. In 1950 the
Silvery Wave, a thirty six foot gaffer was built in Fremantle by Victor Mews, and was lifted from her
jinker by crane, and placed into the water at the "A" jetty. She retired from fishing in the year 2000
after half a century of fishing. The "Silvery Wave" is uniquely West Aussie, as she was built with Jarrah
planks, Karri ribs, West Australian Tuart knees, and a 1¼" Wandoo deck. The attached photo is of the
"Silvery Wave" in her berth at Mandurah. Steve Boocock e-mail steve.boocock@alcoa.com.au
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Fellow traditional boat enthusiasts, I am about to inherit a 16ft, loose luffed, gaff rigged, GRP,
open day boat from my father. He tells me that the boat was modelled on a traditional fishing boat, probably
used on rivers in the South East of England (UK) for shell fish gathering. The type of boat is apparently
called a 'Winkle Brig'. I have searched the net with no success to find information about the history
of this type of craft. If anyone can assist me with information, or point me in the right direction,
please email me > whinging_pom@hotmail.com Thanking you in anticipation, Simon Hill.
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Dear Peter do you know anything about the 'voyager' class of cutter built by Arthur Bishop in the
1940/50's? I have Ti Hani, built in the early 50's & apparently used to sail to & from the island.
She is 28ft 6, with a jarrah hull & cutter rig. Look forward to hearing from you. Richard
Richard Young Lecturer Urrbrae TAFE 83726818
Can any body help Richard
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I'm the new owner of a vessel built in Fraborg Denmark 1942 as a trawler ketch. I have paper work
relating to her working life as a trawler out of Grimsby GY45, the certificate of British registry starts
in 1954. I dont have any history before this date although I have a news paper cutting saying she
was one of the Shetland Buses, to date I cant find any proof re this . I would very much appreciate
any information about her early history. You can see her on my web site which is http://homepage.ntlworld.com/boats
and follow the link's to Danbrit.
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Hi the name is Bob from Chesterfield. I have a Robert Duck Gaff rig boat 31ft long 9.6 beam Had
the boat for 12 years + What I would like to find out more details of my boat It based at Grimsby
Do you know any were I can get nore info Thanks Bob Kugler jl@kayselectronics.co.uk
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Hi All,
I have a Jolly boat (the Laurent Giles design - Its my first boat !) that has to go
on a swinging mooring in a fairly exposed estuary and I am not too sure of the best way to attach to
the buoy. There is no bow roller and there is a bowsprit with rigging that seems to complicate matters.
There are fairleads either side on the bow. There is also an eye at around the waterline used for winching
the boat onto the trailer.
Theres seems to be two options I can think of
1. I could make
a bridle out of multiplex (or chain ?? how do I avoid damage?) that comes through some plastic tube at
BOTH fairleads and attaches to the wooden cleat on the foredeck. Hopefully this would sort itself out
as the boat swings. Havnt tried it yet so I'm not sure if the bowsprit rigging will foul.
2. Hang
over the bow (its a long way) and attach some chain to the winching eye. Any tips would be welcome
Les
Hi All
I'm seraching for any information about a boat designed and manifactured
at beginning of 20th century (1900). The boat was called "Nellie" afterwards called "Tea rat"; it
was designed and built by Stone Bros. Erith and Brightlingsea. I would to receive so information from
your important organization; if not possible, please let me know who I have to contact. Thank you
very much Best regards Alessandro Gallo
eng. Alessandro Gallo via R. Ardigò, 20 25100
Brescia Italy Tel. +39030362143 - +393281082140 email: ingallo@inwind.it
Hi All
I'm trying to find a reasonably accurate modern reproduction of a REAL French Chebec - 85 to 120 feet
in length. Anybody know where or with whom I can check? Terry Taylor
mailto:Cingetor@prodigy.net
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I have just bought a gaff rigged cutter built as a yacht in 1900. She is 30ft long and her name is Madalaine.
She is at the moment on the east coast of england and will stay there,for some time; Apparently
she is a norfolk built boat? Can any body help with more information?
I will be publishing
pictures later to further help Thanks Mike Tudge
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At the Plymouth Classic Boast Rally last week I bought [from the all-too-persuasive stall holder] a
clinker dinghy, allegedly of Essex origin. It needs some renovation and I am interested to find information
both of its origins and its rig. The story was: Built around 1910 [claim; no evidence], 9'4",
saved from destruction when developers took over the boatyard some 10 years ago at Walton-on-Naze. Clinker,
larch on oak [allegedly], 3 thwarts, two rowing positions, unstayed mast stepped in forward thwart, single
triangular sail [Essex maker], bamboo boom [presumably later!], no centre plate [though man said the
12' version did have]; rudder missing Currently leaking like a seive, but very pretty as potential
fun sailer and tender to my 23' Heard Falmouth boat. I'd love to know the original use of this
sort of boat on the Essex coast, and any guidance that would help to renovate it with some authenticity
[esp the sail and the rudder shape]. And is the date at all likely? Does anyone know of any
local contacts - individuals or yards/associations - that might have anything to say? Many thanks
John Forster watermusic@supanet.com
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Barbara and I have just bought "Biddy", a gentleman's yacht built in 1908 by Howard and sons of Maldon.
At some time she was sailed in the South west under the name of "Where be tu".
Anybody have any
information, stories or photographs?
Rob Johnsey
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I used to own Pamete,a 30ft gaff ketch built in Conway in1931. I sold her to David Bruce Collenette
in 1965. I am trying to trace her present whereabouts and I am wondering if the Association records
can help me? I realise that whether this is an onerous request will depend on the method of recording
members and their boats. If it is not, and you can help me I should be most grateful; if it is Regards,
Alan Frood
Does anyone know where Pamete is?
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We have just purchased an old clinker boat by the name of 'Kestrel'. She is 18ft 8' in length and is
pine on oak with a mahogony stern. She is powered by a Stuart Turner 4hp. The coachroof is mahogony and
completely rotten (as well as ugly) and will have to go for something more traditional. At the moment
she is bermuden rigged. However we are hoping to gaff rig her. She has possibly been identified as a
boat built by The Chesford Boat & Launch company of Frogmore. She was rescued from the mud in Dittisham
and has an iron keel & centre plate. Could you please inform me of any good books on the gaff rig ie.
how to convert from a bermuden rig. Also, if anyone Knows The age/history of this boat and the Chesford
boat co. I would be very grateful. Thanks in anticipation Simon McDonald
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I am the original builder and designer of Skanner Yachts Limited, 19 and 24f and built the first 30
yachts. Im looking to see if there are any owners out there whom are wishing to sell their boat or
would like to get into contact with me Michael Hawes 07887 901841
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I have just bought Winkle Brig sail no.9 which I have towed back to my house in France. I would be
interested to hear from any other owners to share views, replacement parts, experiences etc. Particularly
interested in photos under sail Nick Baker.
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I am trying to find out what happened to an Old Gaffer that my Dad used to own. He competed in many
Old Gaffers Assoc races at Yarmouth, IOW during the 60's and 70's. The boat was a beauty called Mina,
built in about 1920 at Fowey. Dad's name is Frank Parsons. He died in 1998. I'd love to know if
she is still sailing, and who owns her now. Liz Parsons
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I am rebuilding my boat and pictures and/or stories could help a lot.
Boat is named Mjojo,built
1967 in Lamu,Kenia for an English family.Dim:12.75 x 4.20 x 1.95 m Mjojo looks like a dhow complete
with carved ornaments,but in her lines and rigging she is a typical english cutter. Original rig was
like a Bawley,but bowsprit could not be reefed.She sailed via South-Africa,Brazil and Carribean to England,where
she probably got a big overhaul and an engine installed. Early seventies she took part in an old gaffers
race.She was sold to Holland and stayed there ever since. The second owner was Tony Cole,then living
in Amsterdam. Any information would help!
Best regards,Tom van den Berg
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As a boy in the early 60's I sailed in a 30ft lwl Gaffer called ISIS, built in Fowey in 1939 and had
8 enjoyable years learning seamanship and craftsmanship keeping the old girl in tip top condition. In
1959 my father bought ISIS in derelict condition when he found her in Birdham Pool Chichester. It all
culminated 8 yrs later with us winning the south coast OGA race (class 1) in I think 65 and 66. It
would be nice to pass on her middle years history to her current owner if she is still around and also
find out if our hard work has stood the test of time. My father is still active in his 80's often sailing
with me in my Nich 32, we would both be delighted to hear how ISIS has faired and share old and new stories
of her life. She was a lovely boat and was the catalyst of my sailing passion Steve Green
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I have just bought a "Lynette" class East Coast Sloop (24ft) called "Sophia". She was built in the
fifties. I'm interested in finding out about the history of the class and my boat in particular.
Contact mail@johncairns.com
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At 58 years of age I am trying sailing for the first time and need some info. I have bought a 13
foot sailing dinghy approx 11 years old It was made of aluminium and is of german origin. I know
this is a bit vague but can anyone help me as to a manufacturer. Thanks Brian Wood
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We just bought an old gaff rigged ship NOREEN which has her origins in the UK this is all we know aboout
the ship. Maybe you can, with your expertise, help us find the origins off this kind of ships
i've added two pictures off Noreen your's Jurrien de MIk hoflaan 3 6824 bn Arnhem
info@dm-architecten.nl
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I am in the process of updating my photo files and would appreciate your help in finding names for the
boats in the attached files. They were all taken some time ago, 10-15 years, when the Solent gaffer race
finished at Marchwood Sailing Club. Can anyone help Malcolm to find the names of these 5 gaffers,
if so let him know.
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We just bought an old gaff rigged ship NOREEN which has her origins in the UK this is all we know aboout
the ship. Can,anyone help us find the origins off this kind of ship see the two pictures off Noreen
Jurrien de MIk Arnhem
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We have just become the proud owners of Gularis, we have some history of the vessel but we would like
to trace what she was doing during the war 1939 to 1945 Built in 1938 for Captain Charles Hyland
as his personal “Gentleman’s Cruising Yacht” (However the build spec of the vessel is far higher than
required for a pleasure vessel and makes me wonder if she was purpose built for other reasons? When Gularis
was built she was equipped with a self-starting generator of MoD origin even though all electrical equipment
fitted to the vessel was capable of running from the onboard batteries and nothing required AC power,
electro hydraulic steering, which was changed to a hydraulic only system at some time during the war.
Heavy duty towing equipment was also fitted she had a very elaborate worldwide transceiver. She also
has fuel tanks that would have given her the capability to cruise between 400 to 500 nautical miles before
re-fuelling was necessary.) She was designed by A. H. Comben & Hyland Ltd. And built at Stanilands boat
yard in Thorne. Captain Charles Hyland was the MD of Hylands of Wakefield Ltd they used to design and
manufacture marine hydraulic systems and equipment, they used to supply equipment to the navy. He also
co-owned Stanilands boat yard Gularis was used throughout WW II as a hydraulic test bed for new hydraulic
designs from the Hyland factory; the vessel escaped being sent to Dunkirk in 1940 (After looking into
the history of the “Little Ships of Dunkirk” I cannot understand how she escaped this if she was registered
as a private pleasure vessel)
She passed from Hyland ownership in 1949 none of the experimental
hydraulics were left on her however, the original hydraulic pump, winch, steering and plumbing are still
on her.
Does anyone have any information on Gularis? or suggestions as to where we might find
out more?
Colin Clarke
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Does anyone know if "Tarter Maid" is still sailing. I sailed on her in 1964 period out of Bursledon.
Colin Bank s/v Wassail e-mail: wassail34@verizonmail.com
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Here is a request from a German gaffer, If anyone can translate and help him please do so.
Hallo,
ich bin Eigner einer Winklebrig. Nuch suche ich dringen andere Personen die auch eine Winklebrig haben.
ich möchte gerne Infomationen austauschen. Vielen Dank Klaus Sch.
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I have just acquired a clinker built 18ft lifting keel gaffer made by Dixon's of Exmouth. She is mahogany
on oak. The question, how heavy is she? I have a trailer and it needs new suspension units, I would
love to have full Monty over engineered units but cost is the issue. I am guessingat about 3/4 of
a ton, but guess is the operative word! Any help greatly appreciated.
Jonathan Davis
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I'm looking for a windlass for my 50' ferro double ender gaff ketch, a big boat probably needing 1/2
inch chain;
Does anyone know of an electric or hand operated machine of suitable antiquated appearance
which I could restore?
From John Laband (Working Yact I)
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I am trying learn more about Martin Heard boats with little success.
Does any one know if he
maintains a website?
Thanks in advance, John Hunter 2632 Verde Lane Winter Park, FL
32792 407-657-3574
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I am searching for a 58ft steel hull Dutch barge yacht built in Holland in 1922. She is now known
as Harelda 11 and has also been known as Ivernia and Leiden. The boat was abandoned in Paris in the
1980s and then restored by Alain Yvorra and sold in 1999. I am not sure if he restored her here in
England (I believe he lived in London and registered the boat with the Small Ships Register) or in Paris.
If you have any knowledge of this yacht please contact Sue Shephard
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Looking for Ondina
For the complete restauration of the gaff cutter 'Ondina' from 1906 I am looking
for information. Anything that can contribute in the reconstruction of her history and documentation
for the restoration of this yacht and her builder/designer is welcome. Hopefully this will help bring
her back in original shape and condition and bring her history back to life.
The oldest known
photographs to me are from may 1929 (Yachting Monthly, frontcover and article 'Across channel with Ondina').
Beken photo's from 1953 show the boat nearly unchanged but, somewhere in history her rig was altered
to bermuda yawl, cabin, cockpit and interior were altered and the counter was cut short. There is
concrete in her bilge and I wonder if this is original.
From 1907 to 1981 she was registered with
Lloyds in Falmouth, with homeports Salcombe [1960] and Fowey [1980] for short periods. Soon after she
came to Holland.
The story goes that several sailors have seen 'Ondina' often in the Mediteranean
sea and around the Canary Islands in the sixties or seventies and a Transatlantic voyage is supposed
to have been made then, about which a book should have been written. A copy of the book I have never
found, but if there are any...
The designer/builders were Luke & co, Hamble. I can not find much
about their history, except that the wharf went into flames and all documents with it. Has anyone ever
recorded the history of this company and its boats? Pictures and measurements show she looks very much
like the one year younger and only two feet or so longer 'Lady Maud' from the same builder. The owner
of this famous boat I have traced for questions but the also is looking for more information to make
his boat as original as possible. He recalls having seen Ondina with a Bermuda yawl rig in Fowey in 1971.
Maybe the standard she had flying in 1953 (see picture) may also give a clue?
Anyone with any
information, be it a story, photo or document or just a possible trace of where to look further is invited
to reply and help complete Ondina's history. If there will be any news I will keep everyone informed
if appreciated.
I very much hope to here from you.
Best regards, Frank Zomerdijk Member
VKSJ Magnoliahof 23 5213 HJ 's-Hertogenbosch The Netherlands T: + 31 73 523 08 21 E: info@zozo.nl
Ondina, Luke & co, 1906 build number 120213 9 tons, 37,5 ft long, 27 ft waterline, 8.8 ft beam
5.6 ft draught, 796 sq ft sail area
List of owners (mainly Lloyds) 1907: J. Gregory Bond 1919-20:
Humphrey J. Willyams 1924-25: Mrs J. B. young-Jamieson 1925-26: F. E. Rohrer 1926-27: A. L.
Rohrer & C. H. Langdon 1927-28: Percy M. Homan (or Holman according to Yachting Monthly) 1931-32:
F.E. Osborne 1934-35: Capt. H. R. Newgrass 1938-39: F. S. Atkinson & H. F. Barge 1947-48: F.
S. Atkinson 1955-56: Michael L. Brownlee 1964-65: A. J. Edwards 1978-79: R. De Vos (Dutch?)
?-93: de Haan (Dutch) 1993-03 H. Breitscheid (German) dec. 2003 Frank Zomerdijk
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I have owned a Terry Heard Tosher for the last 20 years, sailing in Salcombe/Dartmouth, but the love
of my sailing life was a 38' Looe pilot cutter named Curlew. I used to be relief skipper when she
was owned by the Island Cruising Club. She was sold 20 years ago, and I have not heard of her since....any
one know of how I might track her down.
She had a red, white and blue painted topmast, from
a pervious dutch owner, and stern davits for a clinker built tender. Gaff cutter rig. Large for her
length, ie large freeboard. Originally black, but possibly repainted a lighter colour for sailing
in the sun....from which I don't know if she has returned.
Please let Gerard Woodruff know of
any information you might have.
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I am trying to trace the whereabouts and the history of the 'Sundance '. I believe she was sailing
from St Ives Cornwall circa post 1950. The only information I have available is the registration LT 577
( formerly the sailing Smack Jubilee ? ) and the words Nobels, Girvan, Scotland 1950. I would greatly
appreciate any assistance anyone can offer. Thank you. Contact T Capps-Jenner
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Please does anyone have any information on the sailing smack "Patrick Henry". Dennis Durrant
GORLESTON HERITAGE VIRTUAL MUSEUM Have you seen it yet? www.gorleston-heritage.co.uk
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Laurent Giles Jolly Boat
Can anyone who has one of these please get in touch?
Many
thanks
John Brough
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I am searching for an iron hulled Dutch barge yacht now called Harelda ll. I think she is now berthed
in Paris and used as a houseboat. I also want to know more of her history. I found an article in
a French magazine which says when she was called Leiden, the yacht 'caused a sensation by crossing France,
from the channel to the Mediterranean, via canals and rivers'. She then did charter work in the Mediterranean
before being returned to Paris in the late 70s where she was abandoned. Does anyone remember this story?.
She was also called Ivernia in the 1950s and her name was given to the Cunard for their liner Ivernia.
I would be grateful for any help or information about the history and present whereabouts of this boat.
Sue Shephard
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I live in Limerick, in what is called the mid-west of Ireland.
I have recently bought a boat
called the *Knocknagow*, which I believe began trading between Waterford and Carrick-on-Suir, on the
River Suir in the south-east of Ireland, in 1912. It both carried goods itself and acted as a tug for
the unpowered lighters used on the estuary. Its beam is 12', but I understand that a wooden fender extended
this to 12' 6". There are no locks on the Suir, so there was no restriction on beam: I suspect therefore
that the boat was not built for the Suir.
Draught is about 4' 6" and I understand the boat was
originally steam-powered; it is suggested that the steam-engine was removed in Portadown in Northern
Ireland in 1930. (A friend is checking sources there.)
The boat was later used in the gravel trade
on both the Suir and the Slaney, with an excavator on the bow. In 1975 it was saved from the scrapyard,
shortened to 61' so that it would fit the Irish Grand Canal, replated and converted for use as a private
pleasure-boat. Its superstructure and interior were remodelled several times and it was fitted with two
masts (which did not survive), a hydraulic centreboard (which did) and a 36'-wide square sail. I have
now brought it to the River Shannon.
There are some photos of the boat under its previous ownership
on http://slaney.iwai.ie/rally02/: it's the big one.
As a result of the conversions, there is
something of the grandfather's axe about the boat, but it is still remembered on the Suir. I would like
to trace its history: I can use local sources from 1912 onwards, but I would like to know where the boat
came from. I have been told that it was probably built around 1900, and I have found the word "SCOTLAND"
in capitals, about three quarters of an inch high, on the stern, to the starboard of the centre line.
There MIGHT be another word in front of it that MIGHT be "LEITH".
Is there a good source of
information about barges built in Scotland? Web searches have not been very productive as I have very
little to go on; I thought my best bet might be to find a list of the vessels built by particular yards
and then select those whose size seems right. I would welcome any advice.
Brian J Goggin
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Members of the OGA may be interested to know that the Bartlett Library of the National Maritime Museum
Cornwall operates an enquiry service which deals with the kind of questions which have been posed on
this Forum (though no guarantees of satisfaction are given). The service is open to all. The
first (elastic) hour is undertaken free. If the enquiry cannot be satisfied within this time, those making
the enquiry will be informed and given the option of further time, but at £10,00 per hour. The
Bartlett Library has 12,500 volumes, including archival material and full runs of yachting magazines
backed by an increasing number of data-bases. See www.nmmc.co.uk. Access to the Bartlett Library
is free to all visitors; Tuesdays to Saturdays, 10.00am to 5.00pm NO appointment necessary, despite
what the website currently says. Roger Stephens (Volunteer Library Assistant, Bartlett Library).
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We have just purchased a 32 foot Morecambe Bay Prawner called "Penguin" We have been told that
she was built circa 1882 and constructed by Stoba at Fleetwood. She has the classic lines of a
Morecambe Bay Prawner. Is there any way or anyone who may be able to add to the history of this boat
currently lying in Conwy, North wales.
Kind Regards D Clifford
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